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Vechi 11.03.2011, 17:05:15
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Implicit Farmacii - peroxid de hidrogen

Va rog sa imi spuneti daca stiti unde as putea gasi perhidrol (apa oxogenata 30%), adica peroxod de hidrogen in concentratie de 30%...apa oxigenata de la farmacii este de 3% peroxid de hidrogen., si ei nu elibereaza decat cu reteta...stiti careva din dvs. unde as putea gasi, sau poate cineva dintre dvs este farmacist(a) :-)... Vreau sa o folosesc la oxiterapia.
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Vechi 15.03.2011, 00:35:57
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Va rog sa imi spuneti daca stiti unde as putea gasi perhidrol (apa oxogenata 30%), adica peroxod de hidrogen in concentratie de 30%...apa oxigenata de la farmacii este de 3% peroxid de hidrogen., si ei nu elibereaza decat cu reteta...stiti careva din dvs. unde as putea gasi, sau poate cineva dintre dvs este farmacist(a) :-)... Vreau sa o folosesc la oxiterapia.
Va multumesc anticipat. pentru raspuns , va rog sa ma contactati pe email, sau id mess il_divinno
De ce ai vrea asta?

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February 4, 2006. Coretta Scott King, civil rights leader and widow of Martin Luther King, Jr., spent her last days at a clinic in Rosarito Beach run by Kurt Donsbach, a chiropractor whose "alternative treatments" for incurable diseases are illegal in this country. Since 1983 he has been selling hope to the dying and desperate at his Santa Monica Health Institute, which he moved from Chula Vista, California, to a few miles south of the border in 1987. Quackwatch founder Dr. Stephen Barrett, who has investigated thousands of health-related scams, has been monitoring Donsbach since 1971. Barrett says: "I know of nobody who has engaged in a greater number and variety of health-related schemes and scams."

Donsbach was sentenced to a year in federal prison in 1997 for smuggling more than $250,000 worth of unapproved drugs into the US from Mexico. He never served a day of the sentence, however. In 1988, the US postal service ordered Donsbach to stop claiming that a hydrogen peroxide solution he sold could prevent cancer and ease arthritis pain.

The 78-year-old King was just one of many desperate souls who have been lured to the Mexican clinic over the past twenty years to be treated with vitamins and herbs, iron lungs, and other useless procedures. (Mrs. King was partially paralyzed from a stroke last August. She was brought to the clinic by her daughter, Bernice King, and a nurse. The clinic was recommended by members of Mrs. King's church.) Donsbach was tutored by Royal Lee (d. 1967), who, until the rise of Kevin Trudeau, was, in the words of a prominent FDA official, "probably the largest publisher of unreliable and false nutritional information in the world."

On his website, Donsbach appears to be a sweet old man who serves up big helpings of fruits and vegetable and other nutritious things. In reality, he's just another healing arts huckster who appeals to the desperate and dying who have too much unhealthy faith and not enough healthy skepticism. Donsbach's partner in crime is Harry R. Alsleben, another quack who, like Donsbach, used to run his own correspondence school, which offered pseudo-credentials in nutrition, e.g. "Clinical Nutrimedicine and Biological Sciences," "nutri-medical dentistry," "nutri-medical eye and visual health care," "nutri-medical homeopathy," and "therapeutic nutrimedicine."

How do such quacks flourish? They sell a good story and a few of their clients survive and can serve as endorsements. The dead, of course, don't testify, as they aren't around to tell their story.
And, unless one is famous, as Mrs. King was, the press won't do any stories on your visit to places such as the Santa Monica Health Institute. King was near death (from ovarian cancer that had spread to her intestines) when she was brought to the clinic, so, while she was admitted, no treatment was administered.

The Santa Monica clinic was closed shortly after Mrs. King's death and patients were given three days to leave the country. No reason was given for the closure.*

The body of Coretta Scott King was brought to Atlanta, where she became the first African American and first woman to lie in state at the Georgia Capitol.
http://www.skepdic.com/refuge/harm3.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/03/in...gewanted=print


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On November 20, 2007, the North Carolina Medical Board charged Buttar with providing therapies to several cancer patients "that were unproven and wholly ineffective. The therapies consisted primarily of intravenous administration of a variety of substances, none of which has any known value for the treatment of cancer. The substances included EDTA (ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid), chromium, certain vitamins, and hydrogen peroxide." (Have a look at what Buttar prescribed for one of his cancer patients.) The Board charged that Buttar’s treatment of these patients was unprofessional, unethical, ineffective, and exploitive; it sought to "annul, suspend, revoke, or limit his license to practice medicine." The Board restricted his practice so that he could no longer treat children or cancer patients, but he was allowed to continue his "toxicity" treatments.
http://www.skepdic.com/buttar.html

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Vechi 18.03.2011, 20:29:07
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Va rog sa imi spuneti daca stiti unde as putea gasi perhidrol (apa oxogenata 30%), adica peroxod de hidrogen in concentratie de 30%...apa oxigenata de la farmacii este de 3% peroxid de hidrogen., si ei nu elibereaza decat cu reteta...stiti careva din dvs. unde as putea gasi, sau poate cineva dintre dvs este farmacist(a) :-)... Vreau sa o folosesc la oxiterapia.
Va multumesc anticipat. pentru raspuns , va rog sa ma contactati pe email, sau id mess il_divinno
Pe scurt, nu te risca.
Nu stiu ce probleme medicale ai, dar cauta mai bine in alta parte.
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Vechi 19.03.2011, 01:10:40
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Efectele peroxidului de hidrogen [H2O2] ilustrate putin mai comic:

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Vechi 19.03.2011, 10:14:50
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Va rog sa imi spuneti daca stiti unde as putea gasi perhidrol (apa oxogenata 30%), adica peroxod de hidrogen in concentratie de 30%...apa oxigenata de la farmacii este de 3% peroxid de hidrogen., si ei nu elibereaza decat cu reteta...stiti careva din dvs. unde as putea gasi, sau poate cineva dintre dvs este farmacist(a) :-)... Vreau sa o folosesc la oxiterapia.
Va multumesc anticipat. pentru raspuns , va rog sa ma contactati pe email, sau id mess il_divinno
Peroxid de hidrogen nu se elibereaza in farmacii (slava Domnului!) deoarece este f periculos. Asa ca nu mai cauta in farmacii, ca nimeni nu-ti elibereaza (decat daca vrea sa riste sa faca putina puscarie)
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Vechi 19.03.2011, 10:30:40
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Peroxid de hidrogen nu se elibereaza in farmacii (slava Domnului!) deoarece este f periculos. Asa ca nu mai cauta in farmacii, ca nimeni nu-ti elibereaza (decat daca vrea sa riste sa faca putina puscarie)
nu inteleg de ce este trecut pe lista neagra a interzicerilor...
este un bun dezinfectant -eu l-am folosit cu succes pt sterizarea unor infectii unghiale,unele persoane isi fac gargara dimineata pt curatarea bacteriilor de pe limba si gingii,si usuca cosurile deaorece omoara bacteriile care le provoaca.
de ce spuneti ce este periculos?la ce va referiti?
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Vechi 19.03.2011, 10:45:00
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In USA il poti cumpara de la supermarket unde este impreuna cu vitaminele si plasturii. :D
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Vechi 19.03.2011, 18:06:12
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In USA il poti cumpara de la supermarket unde este impreuna cu vitaminele si plasturii. :D
Pai de asta intreb...
Denstistul recomanda gargara cu amestec de peroxid si apa
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Vechi 21.03.2011, 10:56:48
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Pai acum cu ce isi mai decoloreaza parul cucoanele? :D
Clor? :))
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