Comentariul tau mi se pare un pic deplasat. Discutam aici despre sursa moralei si nu despre evidenta sursei in lumea contemporana. Otto a inventat motorul in patru timp, dar oare citi il pomenesc cind se urca la volan?

Nu, am vrut pur si simplu sa spun atee. Nici un stat nu este secular atita timp cit nu este neutru fata de religie. Mai mult, tot ceea ce incalca cuvintul lui Dumnezeu inseamna ateu, adica fara Dumnezeu.

Vorbeam despre sisteme de referinta si nu exista decit chiar numai unul absolut. Educatia morala, insa, nu cred ca isi propune sa il impuna pe Dumnezeu, nici macar sa il discute, ci doar ofera principii dupa care elevii sa-si calauzeasca viata.

Dumnezeu face ce crede de cuviinta, iar noi nu putem sa I ne impotrivim. Dar aici discutam despre altceva, in nici un caz nu despre judecata lui Dumnezeu. Oamenii dau sentinte dupa legi facute de ei exprimind morala societatii. Istoria arata ca atunci cind acea morala nu mai exista sau este inlocuita cu altceva de inspiratie omeneasca, statul e cel care trimite la moarte milioane de oameni.

Sigur, desi sint lucruri vechi si foarte cunoscute. De exemplu:

“The findings of an analysis released by The Alan Guttmacher Institute in November 2003, A, B and C in Uganda: The Roles of Abstinence, Monogamy and Condom Use in HIV Decline, are consistent with the current consensus. Between 1988 and 1995, the time period during which HIV prevalence was declining, key changes in behavior occurred.

• Fewer Ugandans were having sex at young ages. The proportion of young men who had ever had sex decreased substantially and the median age at which young women began having sex rose from 15.9 in 1988 to 16.3 in 1995. Importantly, however, among those people who were having sex, overall levels of sexual activity did not decline.

• Levels of monogamy increased. Sexually active men and women of all ages, particularly the unmarried, were less likely to have more than one sexual partner in a 12-month period in 1995 than in 1989. Other research has found that the proportion of men reporting three or more sexual partners also fell during the period.

• Condom use rose steeply among unmarried sexually active men and women. Among unmarried women who had had sex in the last four weeks, the proportion who used condoms at last intercourse rose from 1% in 1989 to 14% in 1995; among unmarried men, condom use rose from 2% to 22%.” [Aliniatul asta merge pentru toata Africa; cele de mai sus, valabile numai pentru Uganda fac diferenta!] (http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/tgr/06/5/gr060501.html)

Mai gasesti informatie aici:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4433069.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_in_Uganda

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Sexual.....-a0100541404

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/oct/05101404.html

http://www.crosswalk.com/1180592/

Si in multe alte locuri. Bineinteles, adevarul nu convine si se gasesc destui care sa-l atace, dar oricum ar intoarce-o (si o fac jalnic!), in Uganda s-a facut intens propaganda in favoarea abstinetei si fidelitatii in cuplu, iar rezultatele n-au intirziat sa se arate. In zece ani numarul cazurilor de HIV s-a redus de la 15 la 5%.

Acum, despre situatia din Anglia :

“The study by the United Nations Children's Fund (Unicef) shows that repeated Government campaigns have failed to cut the growing number of teenage pregnancies in Britain.

Describing the UK figures as 'alarmingly high', the report suggests the reason could be Britain's transformation into a society where sexual codes are more relaxed, without corresponding changes to help teenagers cope with the new pressures.”
(Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-117867/Alarm-Britain-fails-stem-rise-teen-pregnancy.html#ixzz0Q9ccgoRm[/COLOR])

“With 65 conceptions per thousand women aged between 15 and 19 in 1998, England and Wales has the highest teenage pregnancy rate in Western Europe.1 This rate rose by four per cent in the space of one year.”(http://www.unesco.org/courier/2000_07/uk/apprend.htm) Si astea sint date destul de vechi! Iata altele, ceva mai proaspete:

“Teenagers are failing to heed warnings about under-age sex, leading to soaring numbers of unplanned pregnancies.
New figures show that teenage pregnancy rates rose by 40 per cent in some parts of London last year.(Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...#ixzz0Q9ftUUTl – ziarul de astazi)

Daca-i asa atunci de ce ii spun educatie sexuala si nu educatie morala?

Probabil glumesti, ce fel de alegere “informata si responsabila” poate face un copil?

Si cum, adica, nu tine de noi sa definim ce inseamna perversiune? Hotareste-te, pina la urma ce vrei sa vinzi, morala atee sau imoralitate de cea mai joasa speta, ori n-am inteles eu bine si ele sint una si acelasi lucru? Daca ai morala stii ce insemana bine si rau, daca n-ai, atunci chiar ca nu stii ce inseamna perversiune.

Sint de-acord ca nu-i treaba nimanui despre ceea ce se petrece in dormitor, dar nu inteleg de ce nu esti consecvent si vrei sa le povestesti in clasa.

Avortul facut doar pentru a intrerupe sarcina are legatura doar cu sanatatea spirituala a femeii, cu imoralitatea ei, a barbatului ei, si a tuturor celor care ii sustin.