daca filmele alea sunt reale, ar trebui sa ne temem si de zombii, fantome, vampiri si alte alea? :-s

app tatal meu, de exemplu, a vazut un "napoleon" pe viu... de ce unii nebuni nu s-ar crede si demoni ?

bolile psihice tin si de experientele de pana atunci ale persoanei respective. si daca acea persoana a fost mai... habotnica, nu este de mirare ca boala se se manifeste in stransa legatura cu religia... adica sa avem parte de demoni ingeri, poate chiar dumnezeu sau satana...

si cum aceste persoane se afla de obicei in anturajul bisericii, primii care le observa sunt preotii. si pac, e posedat! il crucificam, nu-i dam mancare si nici apa, il torturam si dupa ce moare "pai era posedat maica, ce vroiati sa-i facem?"

Nu am fost de acord cu Sebastiana in ceea ce priveste cazul Tanacu (din cele mai multe pct. de vedere) insa asta nu inseamna ca nu exista oameni posedati. Filmele pe care ea le mentioneaza (si va puteti face ca nu pricepeti in continuare) sunt niste filme facute pe cazuri REALE, cum se intampla si cu alte productii (de altfel, sunt convins ca stiit ce inseamna - `inspirat dupa un caz real`).

Insa existenta dmeonizatilor nu are legatura cu filmele. Daca crezi ca diavolul exista, in mod logic, ar trebui sa accepti si posibilitaeta ca anumite persoane sa fie posedate. Intrebarea este de fapt daca crezi sau nu in existenta diavolului, si mergand si mai departe - daca crezi sau nu in existenat lui Dumnezeu. Deja suntem insa offtopic.

Bineteles, granita dintre boala psihica (sa spunem de ex. nevroza religioasa) si posedarea este una foarte fina si trebuie analizata cu atentie de catre medici dar si preoti. Nu are rost sa mai spun ca si in cazul nevrozelor de exemplu cauza poate fi una spirituala... iara daca vb. de cauza spirituala - de aici pana la a putea accepta o eventuala prezenta a Raului si o influenta pishica a acestuia asupra unui individ, nu este decat un pas... Macs, da-mi voie sa te intreb, ce tratate de psihanaliza ai citit de vreme ce pari a fi atat de increzator in exactitatea afirmatiilor tale. Spune-mi si putem discuta pe marginea lor, ce zici?

Odin,nu ma deranjeaza daca esti sau nu de acord cu mine referitor la cazul Tanacu,nu cer nimanui asta,eu doar imi expun punctele mele personale de vedere,atat si nimic mai mult,eu vreau un singur lucru:sa am constiinta curata si sufletul impacat inaintea LUI DUMNEZEU din moment ce am si eu"un tren(marfar)intreg de pacate".

vai, dar am vazut filme bazate pe cazuri reale, mai e nevoie si de altceva ?

Da. Si ti-am zis de ce...

Dar de curiozitate, ce filme bazate pe cazuri reale pe acest subiect ai vazut? Vai...

"In medicine and medical anthropology, a culture-specific syndrome or culture-bound syndrome is a combination of psychiatric and somatic symptoms that are considered to be a recognizable disease only within a specific society or culture. There are no objective biochemical or structural alterations of body organs or functions, and the disease is not recognized in other cultures. While a substantial portion of mental disorders, in the way they are manifested and experienced, are at least partially conditioned by the culture in which they are found, some disorders are more culture-specific than others. The term culture-bound syndrome was included in the fourth version of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental disorders (American Psychiatric Association, 1994) which also includes a list of the most common culture-bound conditions (DSM-IV: Appendix 1). American psychiatrist and medical anthropologist Arthur Kleinman has contributed much to the understanding of these syndromes."


asta e o parte dintr-un articol de pe wikipedia, complet este la adresa urmatoare:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Culture-bound_syndrome


carcotasii, pot cerceta direct la sursa:
* American Psychiatric Association (1994) Diagnostic And Statistical Manual Of Mental Disorders, Fourth Edition. Washington, DC: American Psychiatric Association
* Guarnaccia, Peter J. & Rogler, Lloyd H. (1999) Research on Culture-Bound Syndromes: New Directions. American Journal of Psychiatry 156:1322-1327, September
* Jilek W.G (2001) Psychiatric Disorders: Culture-specific. International Encyclopedia of the Social and Behavioral Sciences. Elsevier Science Ltd.
* Prince, Raymond H. (2000) In Review. Transcultural Psychiatry: Personal Experiences and Canadian Perspectives. Canadian Journal of Psychiatry, 45: 431-437

apropo, glumeam cand am zis de filme ;)

Demonic possession is not a valid psychiatric or medical diagnosis recognized by either the DSM-IV or the ICD-10. Those who profess a belief in demonic possession have sometimes ascribed the symptoms associated with mental illnesses such as hysteria, mania, psychosis, or dissociative identity disorder to possession. There is, however, a mental disease called demonomania or demonopathy. This is a monomania in which the patient believes that he or she is possessed by one or more demons.

note de subsol:

DSM-IV = Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM)
The DSM has gone through five revisions since it was first published in 1952. The last major revision was the DSM-IV published in 1994

ICD-10 = International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems
Work on ICD-10 began in 1983 and was completed in 1992