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Pentru ca m-a rugat o prietena sa ii dau "Cuvine-se cu adevarat" in lb. engleza, m-am gadit sa o postez si aici, ptr toti cei interesati:
It is truly right to bless you, Theotokos, ever blessed, most pure, and Mother of our God. More honorable than the Cherubim, and beyond compare more glorious than the Seraphim, without corruption you gave birth to God the Word. We magnify you, the true Theotokos. PS: preluata din The Divine Liturgy of Saint John Chrysostom (A New Translation by Members of the Faculty of Hellenic College/ Holy Cross Greek Orthodox School of Theology) |
Rugaciunea lui Iisus/ The Jesus Prayer
O Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner. |
from the evil ONE.......de CEL viclean
evil am observat ca spun numai catolicii si cei cu trecut protestant ..care tin sa filozofeze nu sa PUNCTEZE |
nu stiu, e traducerea de la greci
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apropo, stii ca traducerile adevarate ca sa zic asa, profesioniste, nu se fac mot-a-mot.
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Cum ar fi Tatal nostru tradus in engleza?
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[SIZE=4]Our Father, Who art in heaven,
Hallowed be Thy Name. Thy Kingdom come. Thy Will be done, on earth as it is in Heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. Amen.[/SIZE] |
Tatal nostru/ Our Father
Stiu ca la vremea cand am deschis acest topic am scris si rugaciunea Tatal nostru in engleza, dar vad ca a disparut odata cu transferarea bazei de date in noul format al forumului. (la un calcul rapid, vreo 400 din mesajele mele s-au pierdut, aveam vreo 3000 inainte de schimbare).
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apropo, sper ca andrei sa revina si el pe forum cat mai curand, dupa indelungatele lui vacante! :) |
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Thy
nu cred ca e cineva pe-aici specialist in engleza veche. Thy nu se foloseste deloc in ziua de azi decat in rugaciunea Tatal nostru.
NB: am citit si eu explicatiile din Webster si mi se par rezonabile. cuvant arhaic datand din sec. XII, care exprima genitivul de la thou (mai tarziu devenit you) fiind folosit in special in limbajul ecleziastic si literar, si uneori familiar. |
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Aici este un link pentru rugaciuni in limba engleza al Orthodox Monastery All Saints, situata in Canada. Sper sa fie de folos celor care au nevoie. |
Bineinteles ca o traducere corecta schimba continutul textului de tradus, altfel nu se poate. Maiestria traducatorului consta in cat din intelesul initial al textului se pastreaza in traducere, avand in vedere ca fiecare limba are particularitatile ei de nuanta.
Cand vine vorba de texte apartinand registrului stiintific sau juridico-administrativ, munca traducatorului este si mai dificila, deoarece o cat de mica gresala poate avea consecinte serioase. Textele sacre prezinta si ele un grad mare de dificultate la traducere, pentru ca la urma urmei reprezinta si ele texte juridice, legi ale divinitatii. Mai punem la socolteala si faptul ca limba din care se traduce este demult moarta si lipsesc vorbitorii ei pentru a distinge caracteristicile vernaculare si nivelul de dificultate al traducerii creste vertiginos. In cazul rugaciunilor crestine, aproape nimeni dintre noi nu cunoaste limbile din vechime, astfel incat sa patrunda macar partial intelesul textului original. De aceea un bun exercitiu pentru cei ce cunosc si alte limbi decat romana este sa compare diverse traduceri ale diverselor texte sacre cu traducerile romanesti, in incercarea de a-si face o parere despre cum ar fi aratat de fapt textul initial. |
O foarte frumoasa rugaciune in engleza veche
"Bless this day which Thou hast given me, Thy unworthy servant, and with the power of Thy blessing, permit me at all times, and in every place, with pure heart, to speak and act unto Thy glory, with patience, wise humility and love, in the spirit of peace, meekness, magnanimity and wisdom, and to regard Thee before my own needs. Make known to me, O Lord, the way of Thy will, according to Thy boundless goodness, and grant me to walk blamelessly before Thy face."
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Rugaciuni crestin-ortodoxe in lba engleza
Alte cateva surse pentru mai multe info & rugaciuni ortodoxe in lba engleza:
http://www.thyateira.org.uk/ http://www.goarch.org/ http://www.monachos.net/content/ http://www.annunciation.org/pryind.html http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/engl...rbook/main.htm http://www.myriobiblos.gr/texts/engl...rbook/main.htm http://www.orthodoxchristian.info/pages/Prayers.htm http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/praxis/pr_prayer.aspx http://www.fatheralexander.org/bookl...h/pray_gen.htm http://www.orthodox.net/trebnic/menaion-by-name.html http://www.orthodox-christianity.org/heritage/prayers/ http://www.oca.org/QAIndex.asp?SID=3 http://www.oca.org/FSsermons-details.asp?SID=4&ID=10 http://www.stvladimirs.ca/library/prayer-theotokos.html http://www.orthodoxprayer.org/Saints%20in%20Prayer.html Our most gracious Queen (Imparateasa noastra preabuna) Our most gracious Queen, our hope, O Theotokos, Who receivest the orphaned and art the intercessor for the stranger; the joy of those in sorrow, protectress of the wronged, see our distress, see our affliction! Help us, for we are helpless. Feed us, for we are strangers and pilgrims. Thou knowest our offences; forgive them, and resolve them as Thou dost will. For we know no other help but Thee, no other intercessor, no gracious comforter, only Thee, O Theotokos to guard and protect us for ages of ages. Amen. http://www.fatheralexander.org/bookl...akathist_e.htm A Prayer of the Optina Elders (Rugaciunea de dimineata a Staretilor de la Optina): O Lord, grant me strength to meet with serenity everything forthcoming today. Grant me to submit completely to Thy holy will. At every hour of this day guide and support me in all things. Whatsoever news may reach me in the course of this day, teach me to accept it with calmness and the conviction that all is subject to Thy holy will. In all my words and actions direct my thoughts and feelings. In all unexpected occurances, do not let me forget that all is sent down by Thee. Teach me to deal straightforwardly and wisely with every member of my family, neither embarassing nor saddening anyone. O Lord, grant me strength to endure the fatigue of the coming day and all the events that take place during it. Direct my will and teach me to pray, to believe, to hope, to be patient, to forgive and to love. Amen. http://www.fatheralexander.org/bookl...sh/prayers.htm Fericirile - The Beatitudes: Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted. Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth. Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied. Blessed are the merciful, for they shall obtain mercy. Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God. Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when men revile you and persecute you and utter all kinds of evil against you falsely on my account. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for your reward is great in heaven. (Matthew 5:2-12; Cf Luke 6:20-26) http://www.quotes.orthodoxwiki.org/Beatitudes |
O Virgin Pure
O Virgin Pure
by St. Nectarios O Virgin pure, immaculate/ O Lady Theotokos O Virgin Mother, Queen of all/ and fleece which is all dewy More radiant than the rays of sun/ and higher than the heavens Delight of virgin choruses/ superior to Angels. Much brighter than the firmament/ and purer than the sun's light More holy than the multitude/ of all the heav'nly armies. Rejoice, O Bride Unwedded! O Ever Virgin Mary/ of all the world, the Lady O bride all pure, immaculate/ O Lady Panagia O Mary bride and Queen of all/ our cause of jubilation Majestic maiden, Queen of all/ O our most holy Mother More hon'rable than Cherubim/ beyond compare more glorious than immaterial Seraphim/ and greater than angelic thrones. Rejoice, O Bride Unwedded! Rejoice, O song of Cherubim/ Rejoice, O hymn of angels Rejoice, O ode of Seraphim/ the joy of the archangels Rejoice, O peace and happiness/ the harbor of salvation O sacred chamber of the Word/ flow'r of incorruption Rejoice, delightful paradise/ of blessed life eternal Rejoice, O wood and tree of life/ the fount of immortality. Rejoice, O Bride Unwedded! I supplicate you, Lady/ now do I call upon you And I beseech you, Queen of all/ I beg of you your favor Majestic maiden, spotless one/ O Lady Panagia I call upon you fervently/ O sacred, hallowed temple Assist me and deliver me/ protect me from the enemy And make me an inheritor/ of blessed life eternal. Rejoice, O Bride Unwedded! (Source and translation: Holy Nativity Convent, Saxonburg, Pennsylvania, U.S.A.) http://www.serfes.org/spiritual/november1999.htm O PURE VIRGIN by Saint Nektarios of Aegina (Tone 5) |
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