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Vechi 15.01.2010, 01:08:37
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Ea...ristian_Church

Unii (Fer. Augustin de ex.) credeau ca e sferic, dar spuneau ca pe partea cealalta nu traieste nimeni, caci ar fi cu capul in jos. Altii spuneau ca e plat. Sf. Vasile insa avea cu adevarat o atitudine autentic crestina:

"At least one early Christian writer, Basil of Caesarea (329–379), believed the matter to be theologically irrelevant." (Saint Basil the Great, Hexaemeron 9 - HOMILY IX)

Citeste primul paragraf de aici: http://www.reu.org/public/basil/bas011.txt. Cat de frumos explica Sf. Vasile cel Mare ca este o problema fara importanta pentru mantuirea noastra.
Eu n-am sustinut altceva. Dar daca tot ai pomenit, introducerea la care trimiti este pledoarie clara pentru a citi Scriptura literal. Este intr-adevar irelevanta orice speculatie privind detaliile (inclusiv forma Pamintului) despre care nu exista indicatii in Scriptura. El tocmai asta critica, libertatea pe care si-o atribuie unii de a postula dincolo de informatia relevata.

“There are those truly, who do not admit the common sense of the Scriptures, for whom water is not water, but some other nature, who see in a plant, in a fish, what their fancy wishes, who change the nature of reptiles and of wild beasts to suit their allegories, like the interpreters of dreams who explain visions in sleep to make them serve their own ends. For me grass is grass; plant, fish, wild beast, domestic animal, I take all in the literal sense. For I am not ashamed of the gospel.