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Vechi 28.08.2011, 14:44:24
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Toti oamenii ii gresesc lui Dumnezeu, dar "ereticii gresesc lui Dumnezeu" in mod specific hulind impotriva Duhului Sfint. Si orice erezie este o blasfemie impotriva Duhului, despre care Domnul spune: "celui care va zice impotriva Duhului Sfant, nu i se va ierta lui, nici in veacul acesta, nici in cel ce va sa fie" (Matei 12:32). Asa ca ia aminte!
Iata si o talcuire sumara de la Sfantul Atanasie cel Mare,a acelui verset:

"What is there to wonder at, what to disbelieve, if the Lord who gives the Spirit, is here said Himself to be anointed with the Spirit, at a time when, necessity requiring it, He did not refuse in respect of His manhood to call Himself inferior to the Spirit? For the Jews saying that He cast out devils in Beelzebub, He answered and said to them, for the exposure of their blasphemy, ‘But if I through the Spirit of God cast out demons’ (Matt. 2:28) Behold, the Giver of the Spirit here says that He cast out demons in the Spirit; but this is not said, except because of His flesh. For since man’s nature is not equal of itself to casting out demons, but only in power of the Spirit, therefore as man He said, ‘But if I through the Spirit of God cast out demons.’ Of course too He signified that the blasphemy offered to the Holy Ghost is greater than that against His humanity, when He said, ‘Whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him;’ such as were those who said, ‘Is not this the carpenter’s son?’ (Matt. 12:32; 13:55) but they who blaspheme against the Holy Ghost, and ascribe the deeds of the Word to the devil, shall have inevitable punishment. This is what the Lord spoke to the Jews, as man; but to the disciples shewing His Godhead and His majesty, and intimating that He was not inferior but equal to the Spirit, He gave the Spirit and said, ‘Receive ye the Holy Ghost,’ and ‘I send Him,’ and ‘He shall glorify Me,’ and ‘Whatsoever He heareth, that He shall speak' (Jn. 20:22; 14:13-14)

--St. Athanasius, Against the Arians, 1, 12"
Da aceasta se zice daca cineva face asa si nu se pocaieste nu va avea iertare,ca daca se pocaieste,precum se vede cu Sfantul Apostol Pavel,nu se va mai osandi.
Ca si Sfantul Apostol Pavel era asa inainte si apoi s-a pocait.
Si probabil in Sfanta Scriptura Sfantul Apostol Pavel e dat asa ca exemplu,ca cine stie cati or mai fi fost dintre aceia si s-or fi pocait mai apoi.
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