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Vechi 09.06.2014, 23:51:20
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În prealabil postat de t4ilgunn3r Vezi mesajul
Un link de pe acelasi site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitochondrial_Eve

Citate de acolo:

Not the only woman
Not a fixed individual over time
Not the most recent ancestor shared by all humans

in concluzie:

Not the biblical Eve

Owing to its figurative reference to the first woman in the Biblical Book of Genesis, the Mitochondrial Eve theory initially met with enthusiastic endorsement from some young earth creationists, who viewed the theory as a validation of the biblical creation story. Some even went so far as to claim that the Mitochondrial Eve theory disproved evolution.[37][38][39] However, the theory does not suggest any relation between biblical Eve and Mitochondrial Eve because Mitochondrial Eve:

is not a fixed individual
had a mother
was not the only woman of her time, and
Y-chromosomal Adam is unlikely to have been her sexual partner, or indeed to have been contemporaneous to her.


Asta dovedeste ca nu ai inteles nici macar definitia. In functie de ce se intampla acum, in prezent, cu liniile genetice pe linie feminina, Eva "migreaza" spre alta persoana.
"The definition of mitochondrial Eve is fixed, but the person in prehistory who will fit this definition can change, not only because of new discoveries, but also because of unbroken mother-daughter lines coming to an end by chance. It follows from the definition of Mitochondrial Eve that she had at least two daughters who both have unbroken female lineages that have survived to the present day. In every generation mitochondrial lineages end – when a woman with unique mtDNA dies with no daughters. When the mitochondrial lineages of daughters of mitochondrial Eve die out, then the title of "Mitochondrial Eve" shifts forward from the remaining daughter through her matrilineal descendants, until the first descendant is reached who had at least two daughters who both have living, matrilineal descendants. Once a lineage has died out it is irretrievably lost and this mechanism can thus only shift the title of "Mitochondrial Eve" forward in time."

Inca astept sa aflu in ce sens confirma toate astea Facerea, inafara de potrivirea de nume.
Stai ca nu inteleg. Prima data, cica nu-i fixata, adica probabil nu stim daca o chema Eva sau Mona.
Pe urma cica a avut o mama. Dovada ?
Nu a fost singura femeie din timpul ala. Dovada ?
Este foarte putin probabil. - "uneori si cele mai putin probabile lucruri se pot petrece" - R. Dawkins.

Apoi sa presupunem ca Eva asta a avut doua fete, ambele au avut 2 fete, ambele au avut 2 fete si de aici incolo doar una din fete a avut fete si restul baieti. Adica ei spun ca dupa un timp altcineva o sa ia rolul Evei, si probabil creationistii o sa zica iar ca se confirma Facerea.
Dar cine ne spune ca a existat altcineva inainte de Eva asta despre care vorbim acum ?

Sunt doar niste intrebari. Pe mine nu ma intereseaza ce zic aia, am vrut doar sa-i arat colegului tau de talkorigins ca nu e vorba de milioane sau miliarde de ani nici macar acolo pentru a explica diversitatea de azi.