În prealabil postat de Patrie si Credinta

Pff, asta e reflex schismatic vechi.
Sa vezi ce chestii de te crucesti gasesti in Bisericile Catolice Vechi(schisma pornita dintr-o cauza justa, ca a si zis episcopul melkit Grigorie II Youseff ca declararea infailibilitatii o sa provoace reactii urate. Dar timpul a trecut, si s-au dus pe coclauri dupa aia, prin liberalism social si intrari in inter-comuniuni bizare).


The claims of many within the independent movement to continuity with holy orders, as found in Roman Catholicism, Eastern Orthodoxy and Oriental Orthodoxy, are based, at least in part, on an understanding of apostolic succession held by some within the Latin Church since the time of the Donatist controversy in the 4th and 5th centuries AD. According to those who hold that view, a person becomes a bishop if consecrated in an approved rite by another (validly ordained) bishop even when he is outside the boundaries of Catholicism.

Some independent clergy have undergone more than one ceremony of ordination to priesthood and/or episcopacy at the hands of bishops having different lines of apostolic succession, with a view to ensure a broader and more diverse claim to valid holy orders and apostolic succession. The bishop conducting such a ceremony may use conditional language on the lines of "If you are not already ordained (or consecrated a bishop), I now ordain you (or consecrate you a bishop)". Sometimes, a series of such ceremonies is undergone.

In what is called "cross-consecration", bishops representing different lines of apostolic succession consecrate each other to multiply the claims of each to genuine apostolic succession.

Practices of such nature continue but are perhaps less prevalent than in the past. As an example, Archbishop Peter Paul Brennan of the African Orthodox Church, one of four conditionally ordained to the episcopate on 24 September 2006 by Roman Catholic Archbishop Emmanuel Milingo, who was therefore excommunicated, claims to have been first consecrated on 10 June 1978 and to have been subsequently conditionally reconsecrated several times before participating in the Milingo ceremony.[10][11]

Hugh George de Willmott Newman is a notable example of an individual who was conditionally consecrated numerous times. Over a period of ten years between 1945 and 1955, Newman took part in several ceremonies of conditional consecration and cross-consecration. It was Newman's aspiration that individual bishops would carry not just one or two historic lines or streams of apostolic succession but numerous different lines or streams, converging to form an ecumenical apostolic succession.

Ia de aici. Baietii cu "ortodoxie sau moarte" sunt parfum cu circul lor, prin comparatie.