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Vechi 05.03.2013, 13:33:11
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Și deoarece cătălin a făcut referire la comentariul episcopului Kalistos Ware, îl redau și aici, ca să știm mai exact despre ce vorbim. Îmi pare rău că n-am și contextul în care a fost scris:
„An Eastern Orthodox bishop has expressed this doctrine as follows:[3]
Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus. All the categorical strength and point of this aphorism lies in its tautology. Outside the Church there is no salvation, because salvation is the Church" (G. Florovsky, "Sobornost: the Catholicity of the Church", in The Church of God, p. 53). Does it therefore follow that anyone who is not visibly within the Church is necessarily damned? Of course not; still less does it follow that everyone who is visibly within the Church is necessarily saved. As Augustine wisely remarked: "How many sheep there are without, how many wolves within!" (Homilies on John, 45, 12) While there is no division between a "visible" and an "invisible Church", yet there may be members of the Church who are not visibly such, but whose membership is known to God alone. If anyone is saved, he must in some sense be a member of the Church; in what sense, we cannot always say.
—Kallistos Ware”
Mie ceea ce citesc mi se pare corect.Dar nu e important numai ce spui, e important si de ce o spui. Pentru ca daca o spui numai pentru a nu-l limita pe Dumnezeu e una, daca o spui pentru a-ti crea un piedestal pe care sa ridici statuia propriilor idei despre mantuire e cu totul altceva.
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