Sunt ateu, intrebati-ma orice!

În prealabil postat de Danut7

Cine-s descultii aia, nici nu am auzit de ei.Or fi niste pierde-vara ca tine?Uite ce zice cel mai important om de stiinta al secolului XX,Albert Einstein, specimene prostus ignorantus :

Unu acesti oameni sutn foartte cunoscuti doe pentru tu nui cunosti nu insemana ca nau importanta? deci sa inteleg ca tu esti un fel de semizeu si daca tu nu cunosti pe cineva inseamna ca nau importanta? Deasemnea cred si eu ca nu ai auzit de ei ca media romaneascas si BOR nu vor sa stii de acesti oamenii, doamne fereste, dar in lumea civilizata sunt arhi cunoscuti Rchard Dawkins si Christopher Hitchens.

Plus ca Einstein spre sfarstiul vietii a admis ca e ateu deci sincer. Si tu ca si toti ceillati te apuci de insultat oamenii, si te pui singur pe un pedestal ca mare smecher esti. Ati vazut ca eu nu ma dau mare si tare si ca nu insult pentru orice argument. IN Schimb voi folositi insasi insulta ca un argument ca de altceva nu suntti capabili. De ce sa oferi un argument logic cand poti pur si simplu sa zici ca e nashpa si asta basta nu?

[Danut7]

În prealabil postat de AteulCelRau

Unu acesti oameni sutn foartte cunoscuti doe pentru tu nui cunosti nu insemana ca nau importanta? deci sa inteleg ca tu esti un fel de semizeu si daca tu nu cunosti pe cineva inseamna ca nau importanta? Deasemnea cred si eu ca nu ai auzit de ei ca media romaneascas si BOR nu vor sa stii de acesti oamenii, doamne fereste, dar in lumea civilizata sunt arhi cunoscuti Rchard Dawkins si Christopher Hitchens.

Plus ca Einstein spre sfarstiul vietii a admis ca e ateu deci sincer. Si tu ca si toti ceillati te apuci de insultat oamenii, si te pui singur pe un pedestal ca mare smecher esti. Ati vazut ca eu nu ma dau mare si tare si ca nu insult pentru orice argument. IN Schimb voi folositi insasi insulta ca un argument ca de altceva nu suntti capabili. De ce sa oferi un argument logic cand poti pur si simplu sa zici ca e nashpa si asta basta nu?

Hai ca asta n-am stiut-o, a admis Einstein ca e ateu?Vreau sa-mi arati unde.

Ti-am vb din punct de vedere stiintific si ti-am pus si intrebari ale stiintei si nu ai stiut sa raspunzi la ele.Cum sa vorbesc cu tine atunci?Mai ales ca tu vi insulti si acuzi.Dumnezeu nu inseamna numai religie, si nu trebuie sa ne raportam la religie ca sa ne dam seama ca exista Dumnezeu.Faptul ca unele religii sunt cum sunt nu inseamna ca nu exista Dumnezeu.Nu stiu ce logica lu` peste ai.Da-mi argumentele tale proprii de ce nu exista Dumnezeu.Cred ca cunostiintele tale stiintifice lasa de dorit.

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În prealabil postat de Danut7

Hai ca asta n-am stiut-o, a admis Einstein ca e ateu?Vreau sa-mi arati unde.

Einstein penned the letter on January 3 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind who had sent him a copy of his book Choose Life: The Biblical Call to Revolt. The letter went on public sale a year later and has remained in private hands ever since.

In the letter, he states: "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
Sursa: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...ience.religion

[Danut7]

În prealabil postat de stereox

Einstein penned the letter on January 3 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind who had sent him a copy of his book Choose Life: The Biblical Call to Revolt. The letter went on public sale a year later and has remained in private hands ever since.

In the letter, he states: "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."
Sursa: http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/20...ience.religion

Albert Einstein a murit in 1955 la 10 ani de la presupusul citat adus de tine in discutie :

Uite un dialog de al sau inainte de moarte :

“Do I believe that someone plans the daily life of Albert Einstein?” he says, and then shakes his head slightly to emphasize a negative reply, “No,” he says, and then in a more animated pose, his brow slightly furrowed and a smile lurking beneath his broad mustache, he continues; “Although, sometimes I think he may have been leading me up the garden path.”

“But, didn’t he make the garden?” The nurse’s reply is thoughtful as the camera moves to a close up of just her face, and then back to the two in intimate conversation, and the old man’s tentative reply crosses his lips: “I think he IS the garden.”

If the exchange had ended there, Dawkins and those of his persuasion could feel justified in their assessment of Einstein’s belief. God is the garden, they could say. OK, so Einstein believed in a sort of mushy pantheistic system where everything is god and god is everything. No problem. But the exchange doesn’t stop there. The reenactment continues with one more short exchange between the nurse and her elderly charge.

Almost without hesitation the nurse picks up the thread of the professor’s thought and says: “But, isn’t he the gardener too?” To which the old man looks straight at the camera and replies thoughtfully: “Yes, and all my life I’ve been trying to catch him at his work.”

si alte citate de ale lui :

All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree.

Before God we are all equally wise - and equally foolish.

God always takes the simplest way.

God does not play dice.

God may be subtle, but he isn't plain mean.

I cannot imagine a God who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation and is but a reflection of human frailty.

I do not believe in immortality of the individual, and I consider ethics to be an exclusively human concern with no superhuman authority behind it.

I do not believe in the God of theology who rewards good and punishes evil.

I shall never believe that God plays dice with the world.

I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details.

Morality is of the highest importance - but for us, not for God.

My religion consists of a humble admiration of the illimitable superior spirit who reveals himself in the slight details we are able to perceive with our frail and feeble mind.

Never do anything against conscience even if the state demands it.

Never lose a holy curiosity.

I see a pattern, but my imagination cannot picture the maker of that pattern. I see a clock, but I cannot envision the clockmaker. The human mind is unable to conceive of the four dimensions, so how can it conceive of a God, before whom a thousand years and a thousand dimensions are as one?

dintre care subliniez in mod special :

In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support for such views. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, p. 214)

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În prealabil postat de Danut7

Albert Einstein a murit in 1955 la 10 ani de la presupusul citat adus de tine in discutie :

Uite un dialog de al sau inainte de moarte :

1955 - 1954 = 1 an

În prealabil postat de stereox

Einstein penned the letter on January 3 1954 to the philosopher Eric Gutkind

Am dat sursa, si documentul exista in fizic. Poti sa faci acelasi lucru si pentru acel dialog pe care se presupune ca l-ar fi purtat Einstein inainte de moarte?

[Danut7]

În prealabil postat de stereox

1955 - 1954 = 1 an



Am dat sursa, si documentul exista in fizic. Poti sa faci acelasi lucru si pentru acel dialog pe care se presupune ca l-ar fi purtat Einstein inainte de moarte?

da-i google, ca nu mai stiu de unde l-am luat