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Vechi 07.01.2010, 02:49:08
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În prealabil postat de anna21 Vezi mesajul
pai exemplul tau porneste de la premisa ca toti (sau mai multi) vand cartofi.. Dar unii spun ca vand cartofi si iti dau cu totul altceva.
Altfel spus: Nu toate religiile sunt cai alternative catre acelasi scop!

Si mie mi-a spus cineva ca islamul admite pedofilia, de ex. Si nu am crezut, am fost indignata etc. Apoi am citit din hadith despre casatoria profetului cu aisha (un copil), ba si chestii mai hidoase (nu mai redau aici). Si am aflat mai mult decat imi doream sa aflu..
Nu-i denigreaza nimeni, stai linistit, observ chiar ca multe surse de informare de care m-am folosit eu au disparut deja de pe net.. Pe youtube s-a facut "curat" in ultima jumatate de an (parca) si daca vrei sa gasesti ceva despre femeia in islam sau despre tolerarea pedofiliei esti indreptat fie catre filme de propaganda, fie catre cele in care este ironizat crestinismul!

Cand cineva iti ofera o informatie, ii testezi in primul rand veridicitatea, nu? De unde stia mohamed? De la un inger?
Cu vreo sase sute de ani inainte, apostolul pavel ne avertiza:
"dar chiar dacă noi sau un înger din cer v-ar vesti altă evanghelie decât aceea pe care v-am vestit-o - să fie anatema! " (galateni 1:8)
am o intrebare tot pentru cea care a postat acest mesaj,poti sa imi spui si mie in care hadits ai citit ca profetul muhammet(pacea fie cu el) a vut o sotie de 8 ani?si cine ti-a spus ca islamul admite pedofilia este cel mai cretin om!!!nu te inteleg ce fel de om esti si tu si traditie?mintiti cu nerusinare,mai bine v-ati uita in oglinda sa vedeti cum sinteti voi si abia dupa aceia sa criticati.
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Vechi 08.01.2010, 20:58:01
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am o intrebare tot pentru cea care a postat acest mesaj,poti sa imi spui si mie in care hadits ai citit ca profetul muhammet(pacea fie cu el) a vut o sotie de 8 ani?si cine ti-a spus ca islamul admite pedofilia este cel mai cretin om!!!nu te inteleg ce fel de om esti si tu si traditie?mintiti cu nerusinare,mai bine v-ati uita in oglinda sa vedeti cum sinteti voi si abia dupa aceia sa criticati.
Întâi, ai grija cu limbajul. Am remarcat folosirea expresiei da-o naibii (ceea ce înseamna da-o dracului) iar acum faci cretin.

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În al doilea rând, ai aici doar câteva din haditurile care vorbesc de actul de pedofilie al lui mahomed:

din Buhkari:

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 234:
Narrated Aisha: The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, "Best wishes and Allah's Blessing and a good luck." Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah's Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age.
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/c...i/058.sbt.html


De aici se vede ca Aisha a fost maritata la vârsta de 6 ani si a întretinut relatii sexuale cu 'profetul' la vârsta de 9 ani. 'profetul' avea 54 de ani c\nd s-a culcat cu copilul.


Book 73, Number 151:
Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter (my dwelling place) they used to hide themselves, but the Prophet would call them to join and play with me. (The playing with the dolls and similar images is forbidden, but it was allowed for 'Aisha at that time, as she was a little girl, not yet reached the age of puberty.) (Fateh-al-Bari page 143, Vol.13)
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/c...i/073.sbt.html


din Sahih Muslim (colectie de hadituri autentice, a doua ca importanta dupa Bukhari)

Book 008, Number 3309:
'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah's Messenger (, may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him.

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/c...m/008.smt.html
Altele asemanatoare:

Book 008, Number 3310
Book 008, Number 3311




DinSunan Dawud (a treia colectie autentica de hadituri)

Book 41, Number 4915:
Narrated Aisha, Ummul Mu'minin:
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) married me when I was seven or six. When we came to Medina, some women came. according to Bishr's version: Umm Ruman came to me when I was swinging. They took me, made me prepared and decorated me. I was then brought to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him), and he took up cohabitation with me when I was nine. She halted me at the door, and I burst into laughter.
http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/c...d/041.sat.html

Altele asemanatoare:
Book 41, Number 4916
Book 41, Number 4917

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Deci cine minte, tu sau eu?

La a doua afirmatie, ca islamul n-ar admitye pedofilia. Islamul nu e ceva unitar, legea islamica e aplicata variat de la tara la tara si de la imam la imam. Sunt tari unde e permisa casatoria cu minori si tari unde e interzisa. În România unde traiesti tu e evident interzisa, dar uite doua cazuri din Arabia Saudita si Yemen (patria islamului si a arabilr, Peninsula Arabica) . Dupa cum se stie, Arabia Saudita e tara care aplica cel mai strict islamul, aici aflându-se si cele mai sfinte locuri ale islamului, mecca si medina.

Cleric de vârf saudit spune ca e ok casatoria cu fete de 10 ani

Judecator din AS refuza sa anuleze casatoria unei fetite de 8 ani

O mireasa yemenita în vârsta de 8 ani a scapat de sotul ei
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