Operatiile, transplanturile de organe - prelungire artificiala a vietii

[AlinB]

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The boy who came back from the dead: Experts said car crash teen was beyond hope. His parents disagreed


Steven Thorpe awoke from 2-week coma after car crash that killed a man
His devastated parents were even asked to consider donating his organs

They were told there was no chance of their son surviving after he suffered devastating injuries in a car crash.
But Steven Thorpe’s parents refused to give up hope – despite four specialists declaring that the 17-year-old was brain dead.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-recovery.html

A car crash survivor has declared he feels “pretty good” – four months after being declared brain dead, with doctors about to remove his organs for transplant.

Zach Dunlap was pronounced dead last November 19 in Wichita Falls, Texas, after he was injured in an all-terrain vehicle accident.
His family approved having his organs harvested.
(...)
After 48 days in the hospital, he was allowed to return home, where he continues to work on his recovery.

http://metro.co.uk/2008/03/25/brain-...to-life-51885/

[Dumitru73]

şi uite aşa excludem transplanturile, cercetarea pe baza,celulelor stem, cercetările genetice, fertilizarile artificiale, vaccinurile, etc.
cu ce rămânem?
cu punerea de lipitori, cu provocarea sangerarilor, clismele, diverse ritualuri şi alte "tratamente" practicate in evul mediu.

[AlinB]

Chiar n-ai gasit un raspuns mai bun, la obiect?
Dar cine stie, poate e vina mea, te supra-apreciez. :)

[Patrie si Credinta]

intrebare:
Ok, vad ca lumea e pornita pe transplanturi ca "industrie pt bogati, blabla..."
Daca pacientul e deja mort, sau e inca viu(Domnul X doneaza un rinichi pt Doamna X)?

[Dumitru73]

În prealabil postat de AlinB

Chiar n-ai gasit un raspuns mai bun, la obiect?
Dar cine stie, poate e vina mea, te supra-apreciez. :)

care crezi tu, că este momentul în care poate fi declarată moartea cerebrală?

[razvan_andrei]

În prealabil postat de AlinB

Pentru cei prea comozi sa se documenteze singuri:

The boy who came back from the dead: Experts said car crash teen was beyond hope. His parents disagreed


Steven Thorpe awoke from 2-week coma after car crash that killed a man
His devastated parents were even asked to consider donating his organs

They were told there was no chance of their son surviving after he suffered devastating injuries in a car crash.
But Steven Thorpe’s parents refused to give up hope – despite four specialists declaring that the 17-year-old was brain dead.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...-recovery.html

A car crash survivor has declared he feels “pretty good” – four months after being declared brain dead, with doctors about to remove his organs for transplant.

Zach Dunlap was pronounced dead last November 19 in Wichita Falls, Texas, after he was injured in an all-terrain vehicle accident.
His family approved having his organs harvested.
(...)
After 48 days in the hospital, he was allowed to return home, where he continues to work on his recovery.

http://metro.co.uk/2008/03/25/brain-...to-life-51885/

Vad ca apar chestiuni controversate despre ce inseamna si cum se determina moartea cerebrala. O sa postez 2 linkuri si puteti citi acolo care sunt criteriile de determinare a mortii cerebrale.

http://ainmd.org/index/moartea_cereb...4#.UXm6dKKeOSo

http://www.health.ny.gov/professiona...rain_death.pdf

[AlinB]

1. Crezi ca doctorii care i-au declarat pe respectivii supravietuitori(pana la urma) morti si buni de donat carne, nu stiau de aceste criterii? Nu le-au aplicat? Le-au aplicat neglijent?

2. Legea specifica care teste se aplica, cum se aplica, daca se aplica de un singur doctor sau o comisie de doctori si trebuie facut proces verbal cu rezultatele fiecarui test in parte?

3. Testele exclud neglijenta, reaua vointa sau chiar intentie?

[razvan_andrei]

In ceea ce tine de o parte din intreabrile tale, raspunsul se afla in linkurile respective. Se mentioneaza destul de clar ca, si daca testele sunt pozitive, este obligatorie consultanta juridica. In ceea ce tine de doctori, pt ca sunt oameni, pot face greseli/erori in lipsa de informatii, superficialitate sau cu rea intentie. Ceea ce am vrut sa arat este ca moartea cerebrala are anumite criterii clinice f clare ce se bazeaza pe cunostintele de medicina din prezent.
Off-topic: am fost martor la o situatie in care s-a pus problema intre medic si o ruda primara a pacientului daca se merita sa-i mai prelungeasca viata sau nu. Pacientul suferea de coreea Huntington, o boala degenerativa fara scapare in momentul de fata. Medicul neurolog putea sa-i mai prelungeasca viata cu cateva zile, dar se merita? Adica, medicul a spus asa: daca doresti, eu il internez si o sa mai traiasca pt un nr mic de zile in chinuri cumplite. A spus ca pt o zi de fericire se merita sa sacrificam toti banii din lume si tot efortul medicilor, dar pt un nr limitat de zile in care omul ar suferi din ce in ce mai mult, se mai merita? Gandeste-te si la acest aspect.

[Dumitru73]

În prealabil postat de AlinB

1. Crezi ca doctorii care i-au declarat pe respectivii supravietuitori(pana la urma) morti si buni de donat carne, nu stiau de aceste criterii? Nu le-au aplicat? Le-au aplicat neglijent?

2. Legea specifica care teste se aplica, cum se aplica, daca se aplica de un singur doctor sau o comisie de doctori si trebuie facut proces verbal cu rezultatele fiecarui test in parte?

3. Testele exclud neglijenta, reaua vointa sau chiar intentie?

repet: care crezi tu, că este momentul în care poate fi declarată moartea cerebrală?

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