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Cine e Milan Lukic: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milan_Luki%C4%87 Pagina de facebook a lui Milan Lukic, cu fotografii de la promoția cărții: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...8806310&type=1 Last edited by MihaiG; 25.05.2013 at 10:05:36. |
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"Ucigași în numele lui Dumnezeu"
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http://www.catacombeleortodoxiei.ro |
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Joachim Wertz, On the Serbian Orthodox New Martyrs of the Second World War. A Brief Historical Background http://orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/se...ewmartyrs.aspx |
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A convicted war criminal who burned alive scores of Bosniak civilians and systematically tortured and raped Bosniak women and under-age girls enjoys the uncritical endorsement of the Serbian Orthodox Church.
The Humanitarian Law Center in Belgrade reports that the Serbian Orthodox Church has hosted a book launch at the parish house of the Cathedral of St. Sava in Belgrade to promote a prison memoir, “Ispovest hačkog suŸnja” (“Testimony of a Hague prisoner”). The book’s author is the convicted war criminal Milan Lukiæ — a ruthless mass murderer and serial rapist. The Belgrade publisher responsible for promoting the launch is the Serbian Radical Party led by ultra–nationalist politician Vojislav ©ečelj. ©ečelj himself is currently on trial at the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY) in The Hague for crimes against humanity. The manuscript of Lukiæ’s book was smuggled out of the UN Detention Unit illegally. This is not the first time Serbian Orthodox Church has aligned itself with war criminals. The recently-captured fugitives, former Bosnian Serb General Ratko Mladiæ and Croatian Serb leader Goran HadŸiæ, bragged that the Serbian Orthodox Church helped them evade justice. General Mladiæ is now on trial as the orchestrator of the Bosnian Genocide; Hadzic is on trial for crimes against humanity committed in Croatia. The Serbian Orthodox Church sees itself as the moral compass of the Serbian people. Its incomprehensible and repellent actions suggest that the Church is morally adrift. In 2009 the International Criminal Tribunal at the Hague found Milan Lukiæ guilty of burning alive more than 120 Bosniak women, children and elderly men in the eastern Bosnian town of Vičegrad. He was sentenced to life imprisonment for his terrible crimes. On 14 June 1992, a group of victims, most of them from the same village, were locked into one room of a house on Pionirska Street, Vičegrad, which was then set on fire. Milan Lukiæ was found to have placed an explosive device in the room which set the house ablaze. He then shot at people as they tried to escape the burning house. At least 59 women, young children and elderly people were burned alive, among them a 2-day-old baby. Lukiæ was also found guilty of burning alive at least 60 women, children and elderly men two weeks later, on 27 June 1992, in a house in the Vičegrad settlement of Bikavac. He and other members of his paramilitary group, ‘White Eagles’, forced the civilians inside the house, blocked all the exits and threw in several explosive devices and petrol, setting the house on fire. “The perpetration by Milan Lukiæ and [his cousin] Sredoje Lukiæ of crimes in this case is characterised by a callous and vicious disregard for human life,” presiding Judge Patrick Robinson noted. He observed that, “In the all too long, sad and wretched history of man’s inhumanity to man, the Pionirska street and Bikavac fires must rank high. At the close of the twentieth century, a century marked by war and bloodshed on a colossal scale, these horrific events stand out for the viciousness of the incendiary attack, for the obvious premeditation and calculation that defined it, for the sheer callousness and brutality of herding, trapping and locking the victims in the two houses, thereby rendering them helpless in the ensuing inferno, and for the degree of pain and suffering inflicted on the victims as they were burnt alive.” Milan Lukiæ also participated in systematic sexual assaults on Bosniak women and under-age girls in “rape camps” in and around Vičegrad. Most notably the Vilina Vlas spa hotel on the outskirts of Vičegrad was used as a rape camp while it was, on Lukiæ ‘s own admission, his military unit’s command post. Approximately 200 women and under-age girls were detained in Vilina Vlas. The Association of Women Victims of War — led by rape survivor Bakira Haseèiæ — believes that fewer than ten women prisoners survived their detention. Rape and sexual slavery charges were added to the indictment against Lukiæ less than a month before the trial. The day before proceedings were due to begin, the Trial Chamber ruled that the accused did not have enough time to mount an adequate defence. |
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Userul catolic iar nu intelege despre ce vorbim, a luat-o pe aratura, ca de obicei. Discutam despre implicarea clerului catolic, nu despre ce crime ar fi facut Napoleon sau ustasii sau Hitler. In al doilea rand topicul are alt subiect. Rog adminul sa observe semnatura sa.
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Eu credeam ca subiectul este o cronologie mai putin cunoscuta a ortodoxiei in cel de al XX-lea veac. Iata, desi eu stiam de implicarea clerului ortodox sarb in numeroase atrocitati, nu cunosteam acest aspect concret. Nu e asta subiectul topicului ? Nu vad sa se intituleze cumva legat de clerul catolic.
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Presupunand ca nu ati citit cele reproduse de dl MihaiG (poate ca nu cunoasteti engleza ?) va fac un rezumat pe romaneste: e vorba de un cunoscut criminal si violator sarb, pe numele lui Milan Lucici (de altfel condamnat de un tribunal competent, pentru crime de razboi) care a scris o carte. Cartea a fost lansata la casa parohiala din cea mai mare catedrala ortodoxa din lume, care e in Serbia.
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Daca tot suntem la sectiunea referitoare la istoria Bisericii m-am gandit sa reamintesc entuziastilor faptul ca multi credinciosi se intreaba ce s-a intimplat intre momentul terminarii epocii apostolice si inceputul epocii patristice.Este o perioada de care se vorbeste foarte putin dar,dupa cum arata regretatul preot D.Fecioru,exista un corp intreg de manuscrise,reunite sub titlul ,,Scrierile Parintilor Apostolici"(Invatatura celor 12 apostoli,cele doua epistole catre corinteni a lui Clement Romanul,Didahia,epistola lui Barnaba si cele ale lui Ignatie Teoforul,epistola catre filipeni a lui Policarp al Smirnei,Pastorul lui Herma,Epistola catre Diognet,samd).Dupa cum arata reputatul teolog mentionat ,,scrierile Parintilor Apostolici fac tranzitie intre scrierile revelate ale NT si literatura patristica."Ele nu sunt scrise intr-un singur loc,ci pe tot cuprinsul Imperiului Roman,din Siria,Asia Mica si Palestina pana in Alexandria si Roma si prin urmare va pot oferi o imagine de ansamblu a vietii Bisericii Crestine a acelor timpuri.Se mai arata faptul ca unele dintre ele s-au bucurat de o asemenea pretuire in comunitatile de credinciosi din acele timpuri incat s-a pus problema includerii lor in canonul NT(fara a se limita la cazul celor doua epistole ale lui Clement Romanul).O sa inchei tot cu citat din parintele Fecioru in speranta ca samanta dorintei de a-i cunoaste va rodi:
,,Cu toate ca scrierile Parintilor apostolici sunt creatii ale unor imprejurari speciale ale epocii in care au aparut,ele sunt de o importanta deosebita;sunt oglinda,transmisa peste veacuri,a vietuirii crestine din primele doua secole;sunt marturii ale dragostei pana la jertfa suprema pt Hristos(...)Nu gasim in ele o teologie inalta dar descoperim in fiecare cuvant din aceste scrieri un suflet arzator pentru credinta-n Hristos,descoperim o inima plina de inflacarare pentru adevarul pe care l-au acceptat si in care cred;pentru ei Hristos este totul". Spor la lectura si discutii ziditoare cat mai dese,aceste scrieri chiar merita citite,aprofundate si intelese prin traire in viata de credinta.Numai bine! |
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In principiu, dl catalin are dreptate, doar gresind exemplul ales. A ajuns fiecare sa scrie nu numai ce vrea, dar si unde vrea. Iata ca pe un topic despre cronologia Bisericii Ortodoxe in secolul XX apare Pelerinul Rasaritului cu... Didahia!
Oameni buni, exista fire de discutie pentru ce vrem sa postam. Si, daca nu exista (presupunand ca mai intai am cercetat daca nu exista deja), atunci putem deschide unul nou.
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