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Vechi 23.08.2011, 16:50:26
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În prealabil postat de mc2009 Vezi mesajul
"N-ai dreptate, de unde stii, dovedeste-o." (konijiro a-z, 1900-2011).
Citeaza un review al filmelor creationiste dintr-o revista peer-review/ISI, pentru ca altfel este doar o remarca (a unei persoane) oarecare. :-)
The American Association for the Advancement of Science describes the film as dishonest and divisive propaganda, aimed at introducing religious ideas into public school science classrooms
referinta: http://www.aaas.org/news/releases/20...expelled.shtml

Cei 3 interviati in film ca pro-evolutie: Michael Shermer, PZ Myers si Richard dawkings, au fost editati , taiate cuvinte din discursul lor pentru a forma o propozitie/fraza FALSA si raufaimatoare. Uite declaratiile lor:
Shermer, in an online column coinciding with the release of Expelled, described feeling awkward about their motives soon after the interview began.

<<For my part, the moment I sat down with Stein (with Mathis there) and he asked me that question about firing people for expressing dissenting views a dozen times, I realized that I was being manipulated to give certain answers they were looking for me to give. I asked them both, several times, if they had anything else to ask me about evolutionary theory or Intelligent Design. In frustration I finally said something like "Do you have any other questions to ask me or do you keep asking me this question in hopes that I'll give a different answer?">>

After a break and small talk the interview resumed, but the questions continued to follow a similar vein.

<< Stein finally asked my opinion on people being fired for endorsing Intelligent Design. I replied that I know of no instance where such a firing has happened. This seemingly innocent observation was turned into a filmic confession of ignorance when my on-camera interview abruptly ends there, because when I saw Expelled at a preview screening... I discovered that the central thesis of the film is a conspiracy theory about the systematic attempt to keep Intelligent Design creationism out of American classrooms and culture.>>

Shermer has stated that he believes that the film is effective in delivering its message to its target audience
Referinta: http://skepticality.libsyn.com/index...ost_id=323914#



Mai jos aceiasi tehnica parsiva si murdara a fost folosita pt a cita din darwin:

Ce zice documentarul ca ar zice darwin:

With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination. We build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed and the sick. Thus the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. Hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.

si ce e defapt scris in descent of man de darwin:

With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination. We build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.

The aid which we feel impelled to give to the helpless is mainly an incidental result of the instinct of sympathy, which was originally acquired as part of the social instincts, but subsequently rendered, in the manner previously indicated, more tender and more widely diffused. Nor could we check our sympathy, even at the urging of hard reason, without deterioration in the noblest part of our nature. The surgeon may harden himself whilst performing an operation, for he knows that he is acting for the good of his patient; but if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with an overwhelming present evil.

referinte: http://www.scientificamerican.com/po...264FABBD4CD879

Descent of man: http://darwin-online.org.uk/content/....1&pageseq=181

Mai multe despre metodele marsave de manipulare din documentar vezi aici: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expelle...d_interviewees

Acuma, ca un bun crestin, in cautare de adevar ("Adevarul va va face liberi" Ioan 8:32 http://www.bibliaortodoxa.ro/carte.php?id=35&cap=8), avand pe tava dovezile ca acest documentar este bazat numai pe minciuni si manipulare mincionoasa in folosul demonstrarii unei idei, total false, ce parere mai ai despre documentar ?


P.S.
da, firma ce a facut documentarul a dat faliment, si a vandut toate drepturile. acuma de is cumparate de niste atei, au promis ca vor face publice chiar TOATE scenela taiate pt un documentar nou ce sa arate fata adevarata a lui Ben Stein.

Apropo, el nu e om de stiinta ca sa isi poate da cu parerea despre ceva legat de stiinta, e doar un avocat si actor. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Stein (Benjamin Jeremy "Ben" Stein (born November 25, 1944) is an American actor, writer, lawyer, and commentator on political and economic issues.)
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