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Topcat, cum crezi ca a fost posibil ca Hitler sa insele atatia oameni cu discursurile sale?

Nu Hitler isi scria discursurile, ci Joseph Goebbels, seful cu propaganda. Acesta le construia in asa fel, incat ascultatorii sa fie nevoiti in final a alege intre douavariante: ori tradatori, ori de partea lui Hitler. Cu alte cuvinte, manipulare pe scara larga.
Ma indoiesc deasemeni ca Hitler credea in Dumnezeu.
Si daca credea intr-un dumnezeu, acesta era stapanul acestei lumi, adica satana, nicidecum Dumnezeu.
Eva Braun a avut o tentativa de sinucidere - practic el a asteptat acest moment - inainte ca sa o ia de nevasta.

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Acesta le construia in asa fel, incat ascultatorii sa fie nevoiti in final a alege intre douavariante: ori tradatori, ori de partea lui Hitler.

Exact, tehnica folosita atat de des de Goring, incat ii poarta numele. Mai trist e ca e folosita foarte des si in discursul religios, chiar si in Romania anilor 2000, dar nu prea isi da lumea seama.

Ma indoiesc deasemeni ca Hitler credea in Dumnezeu.

Poate te indoiesti, dar uite ce zice the man himself:

I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator.

What we have to fight for is the necessary security for the existence and increase of our race and people, the subsistence of its children and the maintenance of our racial stock unmixed, the freedom and independence of the Fatherland; so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator.

Anyone who dares to lay hands on the highest image of the Lord commits sacrilege against the benevolent creator of this miracle and contributes to the expulsion from paradise.

Si daca cumva vrei sa imi spui ca nu mentioneaza crestinismul in posturile de mai sus, nu e problema, a facut-o in altele:

I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so.

And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation.

The fact that the Curia is now making its peace with Fascism shows that the Vatican trusts the new political realities far more than did the former liberal democracy with which it could not come to terms. ...The fact that the Catholic Church has come to an agreement with Fascist Italy ...proves beyond doubt that the Fascist world of ideas is closer to Christianity than those of Jewish liberalism or even atheistic Marxism...

Nu numai ca era religios, mai era si creationist. Pe lista cartilor care trebuiau arse in Germania nazista erau si cartile care tratatu teoria evolutiei.

În prealabil postat de konijiro

Exact, tehnica folosita atat de des de Goring, incat ii poarta numele. Mai trist e ca e folosita foarte des si in discursul religios, chiar si in Romania anilor 2000, dar nu prea isi da lumea seama.

Invatatura Bisericii, pe care preotii isi sprijina predicile, este inspirata de Duhul Sfant. Vorbim aici de sfinti. Ei nu pot invata decat de bine.

La Goebbels, care a ocupat functia de Ministru al propagandei, primeaza ura fata de oameni datorita infirmitatii lui de la picior, pe care a avut-o inca din copilarie si din cauza careia a primit porecla de "Rumpelstiltzchen" - daca ati citit povestile Fratilor Grimm, stiti despre ce e vorba -. Aceasta durere sufleteasca a lui s-a transformat in ura pentru umanitate, din cauza lipsa credintei in Dumnezeu, care sa-l indemne la iertare.