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În prealabil postat de Lucemferre

Tocmai asta este despre ce vorbesc eu. Prin flexibilitate nu mă refer la promovarea desfrâului, a fumatului etc. E adevărat, am scris prost. Toleranţă faţă de păcătos e ce voiam să spun. Adică preotul să dea dovadă de înţelegere când omul spune şi mărturiseşte păcatul şi nu să-i aducă în vedere chinurile iadului, ci iertarea lui Dumnezeu pe care a dobândit-o prin mărturisire. Tu ce crezi, că există un suflet de o putere colosală care se sălăşluieşte în interiorul trupului şi care are o energie latentă undeva, acolo, aşteptând să fie descoperită, care să pună capăt poftelor trupeşti? Un suflet tot o exista (nu vreau să cad cu convingerile în sfera protestanţilor, dar nici nu exclud varianta ca tot ceea ce ne defineşte pe pământ se află în creier), dar deocamdată el funcţionează datorită creierului. Dependenţa (sau patima, în termeni teologici) este urmare a influenţei dopaminei asupra sistemului limbic. Se creează nişte sinapse între neuroni în acea arie, mediate de dopamină, care dau naştere unor sentimente de dorinţă faţă de acea activitate. Pentru că creierul a aflat că acea activitate îi produce plăcere (dopamina activează neuronii şi începem să ne simţim bine). Nimic drăcesc sau ocult. Rugăciunea practic e un fel de terapie cognitivă prin care se activează centrii cenzurei pentru a elimina plăcerea.

http://www.jurnalul.ro/stiri/externe...la-568285.html
Dacă creierul ne defineşte ca fiinţe pământeşti, despre acel băiat ce spui ? N-are cerebel, ci doar un lichid în locul lui şi uite că se poate dezvolta bine mersi şi normal.
Fără cerebel n-ar fi putut să înveţe să meargă etc.

Mai ales şi de asemenea :

„Is the Brain Really Necessary?

This was the question asked by British neurologist John Lorber when he addressed a conference of pædiatricians in 1980. Such a frivolous sounding question was sparked by case studies Lorber had been involved in since the mid-60s. The case studies involve victims of an ailment known as hydrocephalus, more commonly known as water on the brain. The condition results from an abnormal build up of cerebrospinal fluid and can cause severe retardation and death if not treated.

Two young children with hydrocephalus referred to Lorber presented with normal mental development for their age. In both children, there was no evidence of a cerebral cortex. One of the children died at age 3 months, the second at 12 months. He was still following a normal development profile with the exception of the apparent lack of cerebral tissue shown by repeated medical testing. An account of the children was published in Developmental Medicine and Child Neurology.

Later, a colleague at Sheffield University became aware of a young man with a larger than normal head. He was referred to Lorber even though it had not caused him any difficulty. Although the boy had an IQ of 126 and had a first class honours degree in mathematics, he had "virtually no brain". A noninvasive measurement of radio density known as CAT scan showed the boy's skull was lined with a thin layer of brain cells to a millimeter in thickness. The rest of his skull was filled with cerebrospinal fluid. The young man continues a normal life with the exception of his knowledge that he has no brain.

Although anecdotal accounts may be found in medical literature, Lorber is the first to provide a systematic study of such cases. He has documented over 600 scans of people with hydrocephalus and has broken them into four groups:

those with nearly normal brains
those with 50-70% of the cranium filled with cerebrospinal fluid
those with 70-90% of the cranium filled with cerebrospinal fluid
and the most severe group with 95% of the cranial cavity filled with cerebrospinal fluid.


Of the last group, which comprised less than 10% of the study, half were profoundly retarded. The remaining half had IQs greater than 100. Skeptics have claimed that it was an error of interpretation of the scans themselves. Lorber himself admits that reading a CAT scan can be tricky. He also has said that he would not make such a claim without evidence. In answer to attacks that he has not precisely quantified the amount of brain tissue missing, he added, "I can't say whether the mathematics student has a brain weighing 50 grams or 150 grams, but it is clear that it is nowhere near the normal 1.5 kilograms."

Many neurologists feel that this is a tribute to the brain's redundancy and its ability to reassign functions. Others, however, are not so sure. Patrick Wall, professor of anatomy at University College, London states "To talk of redundancy is a cop-out to get around something you don't understand."

Norman Geschwind, a neurologist at Boston's Beth Israel Hospital agrees: "Certainly the brain has a remarkable capacity for reassigning functions following trauma, but you can usually pick up some kind of deficit with the right tests, even after apparently full recovery."
References

Anthony Smith The Mind New York Viking Press, 1984, page 230

Roger Lewin "Is Your Brain Really Necessary?"Science 210 December 1980, page 1232”

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Aşa că te întreb: Oare suntem noi atât de cunoscători încât să facem asemenea afirmaţii cum că noi ca fiinţe pământeşti suntem definite de creierul nostru ? Clar că nu, doar Dumnezeu cunoaşte cum ne-a făcut şi cum funcţionează corpul nostru.

Altfel ar fi fost posibil ca un om cu 95% din cap plin cu lichid să poate trăi, ba chiar mai mult să aibă un asemenea IQ înalt ?