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Si aici un interviu cu Einstein:

"To what extent are you influenced by Christianity?"
"As a child, I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene."
"Have you read Emil Ludwig's book on Jesus?

"Emil Ludwig's Jesus," replied Einstein, "is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot." "You accept the historical existence of Jesus?"
"Unquestionably. No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. How different, for instance, is the impression which we receive from an account of legendary heroes of antiquity like Theseus. Theseus and other heroes of his type lack the authentic vitality of Jesus."
"Ludwig Lewisohn, in one of his recent books, claims that many of the sayings of Jesus paraphrase the sayings of other prophets."
"No man," Einstein replied, "can deny the fact that Jesus existed, nor that his sayings are beautiful. Even if some them have been said before, no one has expressed them so divinely as he."

Mai pro care Dzeu?

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Si aici un interviu cu Einstein:

"To what extent are you influenced by Christianity?"
"As a child, I received instruction both in the Bible and in the Talmud. I am a Jew, but I am enthralled by the luminous figure of the Nazarene."
"Have you read Emil Ludwig's book on Jesus?

"Emil Ludwig's Jesus," replied Einstein, "is shallow. Jesus is too colossal for the pen of phrasemongers, however artful. No man can dispose of Christianity with a bon mot." "You accept the historical existence of Jesus?"
"Unquestionably. No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life. How different, for instance, is the impression which we receive from an account of legendary heroes of antiquity like Theseus. Theseus and other heroes of his type lack the authentic vitality of Jesus."
"Ludwig Lewisohn, in one of his recent books, claims that many of the sayings of Jesus paraphrase the sayings of other prophets."
"No man," Einstein replied, "can deny the fact that Jesus existed, nor that his sayings are beautiful. Even if some them have been said before, no one has expressed them so divinely as he."

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"In the view of such harmony in the cosmos which I, with my limited human mind, am able to recognise, there are yet people who say there is no God. But what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support for such views. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, p. 214)" "

Sa nu uitam ca si Einstein a avut scaparile sale, inclusiv stiintifice. Nu era de acord cu teoria cuantica, o teorie care numai de armonie nu poate fi banuita.

[glykys]

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Sa nu uitam ca si Einstein a avut scaparile sale, inclusiv stiintifice. Nu era de acord cu teoria cuantica, o teorie care numai de armonie nu poate fi banuita.

Sigur... si Einstein a avut scaparile sale, si nenea cu Nobelul, si Biblia, si calendarul... numai Topcat le stie pe toate!

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Sigur... si Einstein a avut scaparile sale, si nenea cu Nobelul, si Biblia, si calendarul... numai Topcat le stie pe toate!

Erau inerente, nu il acuza cineva. Dar astazi putem spune ca, cel putin in privinta zarurilor, a pierdut. Asta nu inseamna ca nu avea dreptate cu privinta la existenta vreunui zeu. Dar nici ca avea.
Probabil ca , credinta in zei era data de pasa in care se gasea in momentul in care scria scrisorile, ceea ce nu se intimpla cu lucrarile sale stiintifice.

It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated. I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me which can be called religious then it is the unbounded admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science can reveal it.

The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.

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The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this.

Asta a scris-o cand era tanar si nelinistit probabil...
Acu 10 ani daca ma intrebai de Dumnezeu tot la fel ziceam si eu, poate chiar mai rau. Intre timp incepi sa-ti pui intrebari, incepi sa te coci mental, nu te mai satisface orice raspuns. La o intrebare gen: "de ce exista religia?" cand auzi un raspuns "ca sa adune popii banii!" iti dai seama ca ai in fata un produs al massmedia moderne, un ambalaj fara continut, un nimic... Nu mai accepti orice otrava ti se toarna pe limba la tv, pe internet, prin cartile care apar de autori noi "talente descoperite" etc. Important e sa nu stai pe loc, nu lasa sa fii intoxicat, cauta raspunsuri...

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Asta a scris-o cand era tanar si nelinistit probabil...
Acu 10 ani daca ma intrebai de Dumnezeu tot la fel ziceam si eu, poate chiar mai rau. Intre timp incepi sa-ti pui intrebari, incepi sa te coci mental, nu te mai satisface orice raspuns. La o intrebare gen: "de ce exista religia?" cand auzi un raspuns "ca sa adune popii banii!" iti dai seama ca ai in fata un produs al massmedia moderne, un ambalaj fara continut, un nimic... Nu mai accepti orice otrava ti se toarna pe limba la tv, pe internet, prin cartile care apar de autori noi "talente descoperite" etc. Important e sa nu stai pe loc, nu lasa sa fii intoxicat, cauta raspunsuri...

Din fericire, stiinta stie acum mult mai multe decit pe vremea lui Einstein si accesul la informatii e mult mai facil. Cred ca in domeniul evolutiei Einstein era un ignorant total.

[glykys]

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Din fericire, stiinta stie acum mult mai multe decit pe vremea lui Einstein si accesul la informatii e mult mai facil. Cred ca in domeniul evolutiei Einstein era un ignorant total.

Sigur, sigur... Einstein ignorant, Topcat foarte inteligent.. in domeniul evolutiei, fireste... Sunt tare curioasa sa vad cine o mai fi zis ca e verisor cu maimuta, in afara de tine...

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Sigur, sigur... Einstein ignorant, Topcat foarte inteligent.. in domeniul evolutiei, fireste... Sunt tare curioasa sa vad cine o mai fi zis ca e verisor cu maimuta, in afara de tine...

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