Adevaratul motiv al demisiei Papei Benedict !

[Mihaela Cristina]

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Inainte ca Dan Brown sa se aseze la masina de scris, inainte ca Alex Jones sa ne spuna adevarul pe care l-a aflat de la sursele lui din Vatican si inainte ca Oreste sau col. Emil Strainu sa ne deschida ochii, putem noi banui care e adevaratul motiv pentru care Papa a decis sa demisioneze ?

Published On: Mon, Feb 18th, 2013 Religion / World News | By Laura Jones

http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/pop...gations-49400/

Pope Benedict XVI Seeking Immunity From Prosecution For Mishandling Child Sex Abuse Allegations

The Pope will have immunity from prosecution regarding the mishandling of child sex crimes by staying within the walls of the Vatican, according to an anonymous Vatican source.

Reuters reported Friday, Feb. 15, that church sources have explained that the retiring Pope Benedict would be “defenseless” if he leaves the Vatican city.

This official news story comes on the heels of a statement issued by the International Tribunal into Crimes Against Church and State (ITCCS) that detailed the legal situation that surrounds the Pope and the Vatican. An unnamed European country and the ITCCS have issued a campaign to hold the Pope accountable for the Vatican’s cover-up of child sex crimes. There was an international arrest warrant secured for the Pope’s arrest:

On Friday, February 1, 2013, on the basis of evidence supplied by our affiliated Common Law Court of Justice (itccs.org), our Office concluded an agreement with representatives of a European nation and its courts to secure an arrest warrant against Joseph Ratzinger, aka Pope Benedict, for crimes against humanity and ordering a criminal conspiracy.

The Tribunal and the unnamed European nation intend to take a lien against the property and wealth of the Catholic Church, beginning on Easter Sunday March 31.

They are calling it an “Easter Reclamation Campaign,” part of which involves citizens seizing the assets of the Church under international law and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

The basic purpose of the action is stated at the end of the document issued by The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State:
"We call upon all citizens and governments to assist our efforts to legally and directly disestablish the Vatican, Inc. and arrest its chief officers and clergy who are complicit in crimes against humanity and the ongoing criminal conspiracy to aid and protect child torture and trafficking."

The document was delivered to the Pope’s representative on Feb. 4 and the Pope resigned on Feb. 10.

The Pope may have resigned to avoid arrest and to avoid forfeiture of property by the Vatican. Stuart Wilde.com has a story today that Pope Benedict will meet with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano on February 23 to request immunity and protection.

The entire story behind the first resignation of a sitting pope in over 600 years is just beginning to develop.

The threat to the institution of the Vatican and its extensive financial holdings, however, is very real!

[iuliu46]

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Published On: Mon, Feb 18th, 2013 Religion / World News | By Laura Jones

http://www.theglobaldispatch.com/pop...gations-49400/

Pope Benedict XVI Seeking Immunity From Prosecution For Mishandling Child Sex Abuse Allegations

The Pope will have immunity from prosecution regarding the mishandling of child sex crimes by staying within the walls of the Vatican, according to an anonymous Vatican source.

Reuters reported Friday, Feb. 15, that church sources have explained that the retiring Pope Benedict would be “defenseless” if he leaves the Vatican city.

This official news story comes on the heels of a statement issued by the International Tribunal into Crimes Against Church and State (ITCCS) that detailed the legal situation that surrounds the Pope and the Vatican. An unnamed European country and the ITCCS have issued a campaign to hold the Pope accountable for the Vatican’s cover-up of child sex crimes. There was an international arrest warrant secured for the Pope’s arrest:

On Friday, February 1, 2013, on the basis of evidence supplied by our affiliated Common Law Court of Justice (itccs.org), our Office concluded an agreement with representatives of a European nation and its courts to secure an arrest warrant against Joseph Ratzinger, aka Pope Benedict, for crimes against humanity and ordering a criminal conspiracy.

The Tribunal and the unnamed European nation intend to take a lien against the property and wealth of the Catholic Church, beginning on Easter Sunday March 31.

They are calling it an “Easter Reclamation Campaign,” part of which involves citizens seizing the assets of the Church under international law and the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court.

The basic purpose of the action is stated at the end of the document issued by The International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State:
"We call upon all citizens and governments to assist our efforts to legally and directly disestablish the Vatican, Inc. and arrest its chief officers and clergy who are complicit in crimes against humanity and the ongoing criminal conspiracy to aid and protect child torture and trafficking."

The document was delivered to the Pope’s representative on Feb. 4 and the Pope resigned on Feb. 10.

The Pope may have resigned to avoid arrest and to avoid forfeiture of property by the Vatican. Stuart Wilde.com has a story today that Pope Benedict will meet with Italian President Giorgio Napolitano on February 23 to request immunity and protection.

The entire story behind the first resignation of a sitting pope in over 600 years is just beginning to develop.

The threat to the institution of the Vatican and its extensive financial holdings, however, is very real!

Suna cam aiurea, e probabil doar propaganda atee ca sa stranga si mai tare randurile si sa incerce sa mai fure niste oameni.

Imi place chestia asta : "Our Court and tribunal derive their ultimate authority from the self-evident Natural Law which resides within the reason and compassion of every man and woman. "
Adica tribunalul isi are autoritatea in legea naturii.De ce nu in legea junglei ?

[dobrin7m]

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Suna cam aiurea, e probabil doar propaganda atee ca sa stranga si mai tare randurile si sa incerce sa mai fure niste oameni.

Imi place chestia asta : "Our Court and tribunal derive their ultimate authority from the self-evident Natural Law which resides within the reason and compassion of every man and woman. "
Adica tribunalul isi are autoritatea in legea naturii.De ce nu in legea junglei ?

Ceea ce este adevarat este faptul ca atunci cand a fost scandalul copiilor abuzati sexual de catre prelati catolici in anul 2010, papa a fost cel care a musamalizat scandalul si a mutat doar in alte locuri pe prelatii vinovati. Deci exista adevarul acestor fapte.

[iuliu46]

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Ceea ce este adevarat este faptul ca atunci cand a fost scandalul copiilor abuzati sexual de catre prelati catolici in anul 2010, papa a fost cel care a musamalizat scandalul si a mutat doar in alte locuri pe prelatii vinovati. Deci exista adevarul acestor fapte.

Nu m-am pronuntat cu privire la exxistenta faptelor. Dar e o smecherie mare la mijloc, faptul ca se vorbeste in numele "umanitatii" care-si trage autoritatea din legea naturii adica din nimic. E doar propaganda atee care urmareste mai multe lucruri. Unul ar fi sa reaminteasca tuturor despre scandalul sexual si sa lege crestinismul de abuzul copiilor. Si al doilea sa impuna o falsa autoritate morala, una in care nu mai e nevoie de Dumnezeu ci de "legea naturii ". Dumnezeu sta la temelia moralitatii, odata ce il dam deoparte nu mai avem nici o autoritate care are dreptul sa ne spuna ce e bine si ce e rau, si asta e o mare problema pentru atei. Si atunci se ascund in spatele "umanitatii" si a "legii naturii".

[Mihaela Cristina]

Daca articolul cu arestarea Papei e real, care e acel "nenumit stat european" care-l acuza pe Papa? Irlanda cumva?

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Daca articolul cu arestarea Papei e real, care e acel "nenumit stat european" care-l acuza pe Papa? Irlanda cumva?

Ma indoiesc. Irlanda e un stat catolic fervent, nu ateistizat ca Franta sau Spania.

[ioanna]

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Daca articolul cu arestarea Papei e real, care e acel "nenumit stat european" care-l acuza pe Papa? Irlanda cumva?

In 2010 victimele abuzurilor din Irlanda si SUA au criticat pozitia Papei Benedict.
Atunci, in 2010 vreo 5 episcopi irlandezi s-au retras din functie.

[Mihaela Cristina]

From Victims to Laughingstocks

The Children's Crusade
I stumbled across a brand-new website, that of the International Tribunal into Crimes of Church and State, no less, and could not believe my eyes. Can this possibly be for real?

With such a name, they must be extremely, impressively serious. But on a closer look, this is either a sophisticated tongue-in-cheek joke, or there are some desperate deluded people out there. Or both.

In their quest for justice, the ITCCS formally issued a “Public Summons to Joseph Ratzinger (aka “Pope Benedict”) and six senior cardinals in the Roman Catholic Church, inc. to appear before our opening session on September 12, 2011 in London.”

Is this it? Is the World Court finally going to nail the Church for its crimes?


How will this millennial event happen? Well, they must have a cunning plan:

“Common Law peace officers working for our de jure Court and Tribunal will apprehend these persons and bring them to trial, and will enforce the verdicts of our Court, if regular peace officers refuse to do so.”

Oh, I see, this isn’t the International Court of Justice in the Hague after all. It has nothing to do with even that flawed tribunal. Instead, the “International Tribunal” is a self-empowered citizens “court”. If the pope fails to show, and the Italian carbinieri don’t feel up to it, they’ll perform citizens’ arrests of Ratzi and his cronies. Yeah, that’ll work. I’m sure the Swiss Guard will be most cooperative.

And Her Majesty’s Bodygaurd, too. Because it’s not just Ratzi they want. The ITCCS demands that Queen Elizabeth also “answer charges of their complicity in crimes against humanity, genocide and child trafficking.”

Then, the ITCCS boldly states this:

“The ITCCS has the endorsement of over thirty organizations, including eight indigenous nations in North America and Asia, survivors of Catholic church torture in Ireland, Australia and England, and the autonomous sovereign nation of Eurostaete.”

Eurostaete? You mean the European Union is involved? Sadly no. The “Eurostat” is apparently the EU’s economic statistics department. Eurostaete is a bit less impressive, according to the Dutch version of Wikipedia:

Euro Staete is a land or no man’s land between the Netherlands and Germany… currently (May 2008) by a state not recognized , except by Euro Staete itself.

In fact, Euro Staete the result is a border dispute with the Netherlands and Germany… Remarkably, there is one area where neither claim to states, whereas at most border disputes two or more countries lay claim to a particular area.

…According to a border treaty between the Netherlands and Hanover from 1824 (signed in 1825) states that the boundary… follow[s] the contours of the ditch, the ditch in its entirety in Hanover… In a land transaction by a German notary only the ground… to the center of the ditch in the German Grundbuch [land registry]. This creates essentially a strip of no man’s land of about 500 meters long and 6 meters wide (the distance between the center of the ditch and the boundary markers).

Ah, that’s better! Official backing of a kangaroo court by a 3,000 sq. meter made-up tax-dodge of a state gives the whole effort a real air of authority. On their Sponsors page, they list 8 groups, two of which may be real, sadly, and the rest of which don’t even have a website. At least SNAP’s not listed.

What to make of this?

I don’t think it started as a joke. It appears to have sprung out of the sincere German efforts to have the Pope brought before the International Court in the Hague, all right, as well as the tragedy in Canada.

I’d like to think that this is some wickedly sophisticated bit of Internet theater, designed to try to embarrass the Church and State for their roles. But I’m afraid the joke is on anyone who takes it seriously.

The so-called “Survivors Movement” has had a good run. Like all reform movements in the Catholic Church, it ultimately failed, defeated by the hierarchy. This may be one of the last absurd examples of that failure.

“History repeats itself, first as tragedy, second as farce.”