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Ce parere aveti despre aceasta opinie de mai jos, a Papei Ioan Paul al II-lea din documentul mentionat deja de multe ori in aceasta discutie? Din ce spuneti, se poate intelege (cumva) ca Papa (actualul si cei viitori) poate rosti linistit Crezul fara filioque ca doar Vaticanul e „departe de lumea ortodoxa dezlantuita si in deriva” si acolo nu-i pericliteaza nimeni convingerea ca „the Father is the sole origin (arche aitia) of the ekporevsis of the Spirit? „The doctrine of the Filioque must be understood and presented by the Catholic Church in such a way that it cannot appear to contradict the Monarchy of the Father nor the fact that he is the sole origin ( arche aitia) of the ekporevsis of the Spirit.” (sursa: http://www.ewtn.com/library/CURIA/PCCUFILQ.HTM) Nota: Papa foloseste termenii folositi de Thomas Aquina in Summa Theologica, Ia, q. 36, a. 3, 1um and 2um. Dar din acest citat, tot al Papei, tot din acelasi document, ce parere aveti despre expresia rostita de el insusi „ek mono tou Patros”(from Father alone)? Ce a vrut sa sugereze acel „mono” pt. Papa? Dvs. ce va sugereaza? „On the basis of Jn 15:26, this Symbol confesses the Spirit „ to ek tou Patros ekporevomenon” (“who takes his origin from the Father”). The Father alone is the principle without principle (arche aitia) of the two other persons of the Trinity, the sole source (pigi) of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit therefore takes his origin from the Father alone (ek mono tou Patros) in a principal, proper and immediate manner.” Last edited by delia31; 09.07.2012 at 16:55:02. |
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