Botezul in BOR

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În prealabil postat de orthodoxia.i.thanatos

Ma rog, tu probabil stii mai bine decit Patriarhii si episcopii Bisericii Ortodoxe care au trait in vremurile acelea! Daca ei au pus astronomi ateisti in anatema, prefer sa-i cred pe ei, si nu pe tine. Cind faci lucruri impotriva lui Dumnezeu, indiferent ca-ti spui catolic sau ortodox, nu poti fi decit fara de Dumnezeu, adica ateu.

Si, bineintes, stii mai bine si decit tot Sfintul Sinod al BOR care a spus clar in decizia sinodala de la 1903 ca nu poti sa schimbi calendarul fara sa afectezi traditia. Modificind Traditia exact ceea ce tu nu crezi, defapt, se si intimpla: inovezi ortodoxia.

Mai, eu nu zic ca stiu mai bine. Eu sunt de acord ca calendarul nu trebuia schimbat. Insa pe de alta parte nici nu pot sa fiu de acord cu concluziile tale aberante. N-a stabilit oare un Sinod Ecumenic sa se sarbatoreasca Sf. Paste odata de toti crestinii? Si totusi, se pare ca asta nu s-a intamplat pentru multe sute de ani dupa Sf. Sinod: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Easter#Date_of_Easter

"In the years following the council, the computational system that was worked out by the church of Alexandria came to be normative. It took a while for the Alexandrian rules to be adopted throughout Christian Europe, however. The Church of Rome continued to use an 84-year lunisolar calendar cycle from the late third century until 457. The Church of Rome continued to use its own methods until the 6th century, when it may have adopted the Alexandrian method as converted into the Julian calendar by Dionysius Exiguus (certain proof of this does not exist until the ninth century). Early Christians in Britain and Ireland also used a late third century Roman 84-year cycle. This was replaced by the Alexandrian method in the course of the 7th and 8th centuries. Churches in western continental Europe used a late Roman method until the late 8th century during the reign of Charlemagne, when they finally adopted the Alexandrian method. However, with the adoption of the Gregorian calendar by the Catholic Church in 1582 and the continuing use of the Julian calendar by Eastern Orthodox and most Oriental Orthodox Churches, the date on which Easter is celebrated again deviated, and the divergence continues to this day."

Si uite ca totusi nu a pierdut nimeni Harul din cauza asta. Vezi tu, chiar si daca un Sinod Ecumenic da o anatema, ea nu se aplica automat si imediat a doua zi ce se ratacesc unii. Cu atat mai mult cred ca e valabil asta pentru anateme date de sinoade mai mici. Nu omul ia Harul, ci Dumnezeu. Iar Dumnezeu nu asculta de oameni, ci oamenii de Dumnezeu.

Bogdan.